Should you run paid ads for your fitness business?
Is it really the secret sauce people think it is?
Let’s talk about it coming up.
Do you want to create, market or scale your online fitness
business? My name is Sean Garner.
And here we give Real Fit Pros to tips, tools and strategies
they need to feed online.
Welcome to the Entra Fit podcast.
What is up, guys?
And welcome back to the old podcast.
If this is your first time.
Hey, welcome to the show.
This whole purpose and honestly, the whole mission for me
and our company and is to help the real fitness professionals
to create, market and scale their online fitness business.
Or they have a brick and mortar location showing them how
to leverage digital to serve their current clients and to
reach new ones.
And it seems as if I’m asked this question a lot whenever
it comes to online.
Well, that means I’m just gonna do a lot of paid ads.
There’s two schools of thought, like, I don’t want to do
online, because that means I have to do a bunch of paid ads,
or I only want to do online so I can just do paid ads and
not continue to do any organic marketing because I hate doing
So I’m kind of gonna vomit out all the different things that
I hear and just give you guys some things to consider if
you are thinking about doing paid ads for your business and
kind of my no, no list of what I have my clients have in
place before they even think about considering ads.
So this is how I approach paid ads with my clients and also
some misconceptions with what people think it is.
I think most people fitness professionals, if they’re new
to online or they never actually ran paid as before.
In your mind, you think that it’s like printing money.
Like, okay, this is gonna be easy.
You know, I’m going to pay a couple hundred or a couple of
thousand dollars per week, and I’m gonna do some Facebook
ads, and then I’ll send it just clients are gonna be coming
to me, like, okay, I understand I’m gonna have a little cost,
but, Yeah, I’m not gonna have to worry about creating content
anymore. Like, this is pretty much I’m paying for somebody
to do marketing for me.
Not so much, my friends.
That’s not really how it works.
So think of I always like to relate it with online stuff
with your in person business.
So if you don’t have a really solid, organic structure in
place for your marketing, doing paid ads is just going to
be the biggest money dump that you could do.
This is why imagine you had your brick and mortar location
or in person facility, and you paid to have all of these
billboards up all over the road.
You’re literally any road.
Somebody came boom.
They saw your Billboard, all your information, man, best
Jim, best trainer.
I help people do X, Y and Z.
This was amazing message and everything.
But then they go to the gym or the place that you’re having
them go to.
It nobody’s there.
It doesn’t look like the place has been cleaned, like you’re
wiping off the windows, peeking inside.
Has anybody even in there?
Is anybody else even ever been here before?
And you don’t have your house in order?
Well, the bill bars are gonna work, right?
You’re gonna have be sitting all of these people to this
place. But if your house isn’t in order, you’re just wasting
The exact same thing applies with your online business.
So this is why I have some foundational rules I kind of set
in place before I let my clients do paid ads or before us
through the agency start doing paid ads for them.
I don’t let people.
I’m not just going to take somebody’s money to start running
ads for them.
That’s not all we do.
We want to make sure that we’re efficient with all of our
resources. So we’re not just wasting money.
Things you should have in place before you start thinking
about doing paid marketing, one, you need to make sure you
have maximized your organic reach.
So what that means is you have a consistent content strategy.
You’ve got a landing page, a sales funnel, or sales process
online that, you know, converts organically with people that
already know, like and trust you.
If you can’t sell to the people you’ve been creating content
for that already know, like and trust you.
What makes you think by starting to give Facebook, Mr.
Zuckerberg some money that all of a sudden it’s going to
trick people into buying your product?
All of a sudden, it doesn’t work that way.
So you want to make sure that you’ve maximized your organic
process, and then on top of that, you’re being consistent
with it, because the worst thing that you could do is the
Billboard example I gave earlier.
You send all these people, but you haven’t shown up to the
facility in several weeks.
And it’s dirty.
And people can tell if you’re not regularly posting content.
Consumers are getting smarter and smarter because there’s
so many offers position in front of them all the time.
They’re going to see your ad.
They’re going to click.
They might go to a landing page, start a DM conversation,
fill out an option and stuff.
But as soon as they do that, man, they’re cyber talking you.
They’re looking at social profiles.
They’re looking at your YouTube, your Instagram.
If you have a blog podcast, they’re reading your email.
They’re digging into you.
They’re not going to get tricked by thinking, Oh, this is
This person most know what they’re talking about.
No, it doesn’t work that way.
They’re going to look into you.
So you want to make sure that your house is in order, and
you’ve got something in place before you start driving traffic
That’s kind of the number one rule, because I’m so frustrated
and sad story, because I know that there’s people out there
that have the appearance of doing similar things to what
I do with my fitness business coaching and consulting program.
But there’s bad people out there, right?
Just like there’s bad fitness professionals.
But I was talking to the fitness professional today that
they had been duped by somebody that this trainer had been
saving up their money.
They had 5,000 dollars, and we’re brand new to online minimal
social media following, didn’t even know how to create content,
barely had a website.
And they got, like, of a better word, conned by working with
somebody. And then said, Hey, you give me this 5,000 dollars,
we’re gonna put it all on the Facebook ads.
We’re gonna drive a ton of traffic to your site and man,
your business is gonna blow up and explode.
Well, that fitness professional took all the money they’ve
been saving up to start their online business.
They thought, well, Yeah, this makes sense.
I see all these other big names do ads.
I should be doing that.
Put all their five K in and spend had a five K ad budget
for one month.
And guess what?
Zero clients came from it.
Whenever the fitness professional went to the coach and agency
and said, well, Hey, you said, you’re going to drive all
Like, what happened?
I was like, well, no, we did drive all this traffic.
What do you mean?
They can show the stats of, like, look how many, you know,
hundreds of thousands of views, page views that we got you
And then we got you all these page views and stuff.
We did our job.
It’s your process is broken.
And, like, well, I didn’t know that you didn’t tell me that.
So that fitness professional royalty got screwed over because
somebody tried to take advantage of them.
And so I don’t want others to make that mistake.
Guys, you are not going to make money by spending money on
ads if your page isn’t converting organically.
So that’s kind of my rant on that.
Please do not think that throwing money at ads is going to
make you money.
The other thing kind of the same, but a different topic.
A fitness professional.
I really don’t like doing organic marketing, so I’m just
going to pay.
So I don’t have to do posts and stuff like that anymore.
Then if that is your mindset, guys, you should not own a
business. I’m going to say it right now if you do not want
to do organic marketing for your business.
Organic marketing, to me, is another way of saying show up
and talk to my audience.
If you don’t want to show up and talk to your audience, you
should get out of business.
And you should not be doing anything online.
You should be showing up every single day for your people
and serving them, adding value, connecting being a freaking
human to them.
Don’t think that you can pay your way out of relationships,
please. That frustrates me to no end.
Also of thinking that you can buy your way out or buy your
way through this.
It doesn’t work that way.
Guys, you have to.
If you truly want to make it now, you can definitely fake
your way through it.
But if you truly want it to be legit and sustainable because
there’s the Insta success, and then there’s real success
just because someone has the appearance of success.
Guys, please do not think that they actually have made it
online because you see their ads all the time or because
they’ve got a certain sort social status.
I promise you.
I work behind the scenes of so many different businesses.
I actually get to see things work from the ground up.
That’s not always the case.
And people are conned by seeing those kinds of things.
So don’t think because you see somebody else never posting
and running ads all the time that their business is growing
does not mean it will work for you.
Please don’t waste time doing it.
So saying all that I can rent, I don’t want it to seem like
ads are a bad thing.
I think ads are incredible, but there’s different levels
of doing it.
And so that’s what I’ll share with you.
Next kind of how I do ads in my approach to ads and what
I think you should do ads.
So first step, before you even think about going into the
paid marketing route, one, make sure you have an organic
strategy that’s working.
Think of paid ads as an accelerate to what is already working.
If your organic stuff is not converting very well, I know
in your mind you might be thinking, well, that’s just because
not enough people are seeing it, which there’s absolutely
absolutely some truth to that.
But there’s also a process thing.
If you don’t have a good not only organic marketing process,
but also a follow up process, it doesn’t matter how many
leads you get, you have to be able to follow up with them
in order to make it successful.
So that’s the first thing you got to have all this organic
stuff in place, business systems, processes and stuff like
that for lead generation, outreach, lead follow up, client
fulfillment, all of that stuff.
Then the next thing that you need to do, you need to be available
to make sure that you’re actually making money.
Doing ads is not something that you just flip a switch.
And also it works.
And now you’re making all this money.
Whenever I talk to a client about doing ads, I mentally and
financially want them to be prepared for not seeing your
return for three months.
I 100% know that most likely it’s going to happen a lot quicker
However, I don’t want you to be scraping by and you’ve got
only a couple of thousand dollars left in the Bank account.
You’re going to use this last ditch effort, your hell Mary,
to try and make your business work by doing paid ads.
You need to be able to commit to doing ads consistently for
at least three months and then expect to see a return.
Obviously, we’re going to have it happen before that, but
financially and just kind of mentally, you need to kind of
prep for that.
The second thing is your ad budget.
I don’t think, especially if you’ve never done paid ads.
I don’t think you realize the amount of money people spend
online for paid ads.
I I run a lot of Facebook ads for fitness professionals.
It is not uncommon to spend anywhere from 10 to 30 K a month
on ads, so you have to be able to put up some real money,
especially if you want to be able to compete in big, wide
niches like online fitness, Fitness for Moms, Fitness for
Dads. You’re going to have to be pretty niche down and focused
if you want to run a smaller ad budget and not have a big
cost per lead client acquisition with that, and there’s all
kinds of, like, nerdy stuff that we can get into.
Guys, I would say this one quick sub topic, Do not try and
figure out paid ads by yourself.
You’re going to waste too much money.
Hire professionals or agencies that do.
We do it with our coaching program for our clients.
Find somebody else that does this, especially for your first
Don’t try to figure it out yourself.
There’s courses and stuff you can.
I wouldn’t recommend it.
Find a good professional, somebody that’s got proven track
record, tons of testimonials proven results, and use them
saying all that.
The very first type of paid ads I would recommend somebody
doing are what’s called retargeting ads.
So what that means is you’re going to have something that’s
called a Facebook Pixel on your website, and you are only
going to be running ads to people that have already come
to your website.
Several reasons for this one, if you are brand new to starting
your online business, you probably don’t have a very large
distribution. You haven’t had a lot of traffic coming to
your website, so you don’t want to just send out this huge
mass ad to everybody.
We want to make sure that we’re efficient.
That’s going to one give us a lower cost per lead acquisition.
Typically by doing retargeting ads, that means showing ads
only to people that have been to your website before.
Because guess what?
There’s a higher likelihood of converting those people then
people that are in cold traffic who don’t even know who you
are, because it takes a long time to get somebody to know
like and trust you in order for them to give you money, especially
online, especially in the fitness industry where there’s
so many different options.
So be efficient with it.
Spend your money retargeting people that have already come
to your website, so that way you’re not having to warm them
up and show them who you are and all this value to them because
they’ve already gotten value from some point because it made
them click on your website.
So that’s the first type of ad I even recommend and will
allow people to do honestly for a while.
Because what I have found just with the clients I’ve worked
with, at least that they end up more than hitting financial
goals just by doing retargeting ads.
I typically won’t let them even start breaking into cold
traffic because each one is a level, right?
Number one, you got to prove yourself with organic traffic.
Number two, you got to prove yourself with retargeting ads,
and then number three, then we can start looking at some
warm traffic, some things called lookalike audiences, which
is technical stuff.
If you’re new to this stuff, if you’ve done this before,
you’re like as an I know that.
But then you can start looking cold traffic and people that
don’t know you because like I said, this is not a magic bullet.
This is an accelerate.
This is a supplement to your clients.
They’re not going to get dramatically amazing results by
taking the supplement, but it could help and add a little
bit of value to what they’re currently doing with their health
and nutrition products or program that they’re following
with you guys.
I hope this helped and added a little bit of value to you
guys and just gave you a little bit of an insight of what
paid ads really is and how you should think about using them.
There’s so much information out there, guys, and there’s
a lot just around paid ads.
And I’ll tell you this, we have a amazing team at our agency
that they just do the paid ad part for our clients, and it’s
changing all the time.
I’m always learning things from them.
Facebook is always changing the terms of conditions, and
we got the new iOS update that just came out with.
I think it was iOS 14 that makes paid ads even more difficult
It’s always changing.
So my personal recommendation is this is not a low hanging
If you’re looking for, like, the secret to grow in your business,
it’s not that you’re not not getting your goals because of
paid ads right now.
Most likely you’re not doing it because you’re not doing
some of the basic things.
You’re not showing up every day.
And creating content that adds value gets people to know,
like and trust you.
You’re not sharing or collecting testimonial videos and success
stories that show that you know what you’re doing.
You are not creating a niche for yourself.
And actually making yourself stand out as an expert.
You’re probably just trying to copy what other influencers
and stuff are doing online.
You’re probably not tracking any business metrics that you
have. You’re not tracking how many page views you’re getting
You’re not tracking how many conversions you’re getting right
now. You’re not tracking your turn so you don’t even know
what’s working or what’s not working in business.
I would assume you’re also probably not awesome at time management,
and you’re not Super disciplined with keeping a daily schedule
in a to do list.
I hope you guys are seeing there’s a lot to do before even
thinking about doing paid ads.
Let’s grow business, guys.
If this adds value to you and you guys were like, Hey, I
think this Shin guy might be pretty awesome to work with,
man. I would love the opportunity to work with you guys.
Check us out.
It’s entropic aching com.
You can check out the coaching program.
Then when your business sells a little bit bigger than we
can look at doing the agency, that when we have where we
have a full team of 47 employees and we do everything from
website design, SEO, we do paid ad management, we do graphic
design, video editing, pretty much you think about it, we
do it here in the great city of Tulsa, Oklahoma.
I would love the opportunity to work with you and with our
coaching program guys, because my goal is to help the real
fitness professionals stand out online, create market, and
scale their online fitness business.
What I do with my coaching program is I give you the first
week for only one dollars.
Give me one dollar.
Guys, come in and check the program, get full access to everything
coaching calls, course material and everything.
And if it’s awesome.
Hey, we’d love to have you stay and it’s only 497 dollars
every four weeks.
No contracts, no commitments.
We don’t try and hide our price or make you go through some
M crazy application or sales process.
If the rules have to be, are you a real fitness professional?
That means you do this for a living.
This is not like, Hey, I used to work out in high school.
Now I’m thinking about going online.
No, you’re a real Venus Profesional and you’re looking to
create a market and scale your online business.
Man, this coaching program is for you and love the opportunity
to talk to you about it, share a little bit more, and help
you guys succeed on line.
Because I think it’s time for the Real Fit pros to take the
online space back.
So you’re interested in joining that guys?
Check us out on refit coaching com.
Book your blueprint strategy call.
Talk to me.
Nobody from my team.
You talk to me when you book those calls, make sure it’s
the right fit.
We get you going forward.
So love you guys.
Thank you so much for listening And have an Awesome day.